Board Thread:News and Events/@comment-17970636-20140525020844/@comment-24728342-20140525170839

After reading through the butt load of words presented by the two: Messer takes the cake.

Liz's weapon is very impressive, and I always did appreciate a good shield, but Messer's training through Grimm Chance, Torrent's training, being a circus performer (think of it as Dick Grayson) allows him to evade that gigantic shield or even freeze the shield - thus either sticking it in position or making it an unevened weight.

Unarmed combat, though Liz's robot arm would usually kick almost anyone's ass, Messer's semblance gives him one helluva chance. He could freeze the joints of the prostetic arm and probably freeze her feet to - well- freeze her position (no other words to describe :P). Also, with every single punch being thrown, she'll eventually wear down.

Final verdict: Messer. But this don't mean I like one or the other. I love them both, characterwise and everything. Hell, they'd make one badass combo - Messer freezing the enemies while Liz smashes them with her Tombstone. Anyways, may the best/faved OC win. o7