Thread:LastZephyr/@comment-25389303-20160708160930/@comment-5999656-20160723224759

Wow, okay. There's obviously some stuff that needs to be worked out before we go any further with the plot, so please bear with me.

The Guidelines state that you are allowed to say that a blow has been thrown, but it is entirely up to the other RPer to decide whether or not that blow lands. I said that the Syndicate fired upon the Patched, but you could have had them dodge if you wanted. Since you didn't, I assumed you were okay with that outcome and continued with it. Same thing with Zanipher vs Smiler: it was up to you whether he held on to those weapons or not. Since he didn't, and came up with a decent counterattack regardless, I didn't see it as a major overstep. Meanwhile, I've explicitly described the members of the DS on their page as elites who graduated from Beacon, and yet Tragoedia beheads one of them with ease.

And Zanipher's semblance: she doesn't actually freeze things in the air, she slows them down to 1/3 of their regular speed. A bullet going at 1/3 of its speed is still way faster than a human can move, so she should have been able to shoot Smiler as many times as she wanted while he was stuck wading through the air. I avoided this situation and nerfed her because I thought it bordered on overpowered, even though I'd intended it to be as such from the very beginning.

The Nine Dragons are at this time the most powerful faction on the wiki. They've been stockpiling weapons and devising strategies for the eventuality of encountering a group who refuses to ally with them and goes so far as to mock a Dragon Head. If we go by Guideline rules, which state that each faction can only have a couple thousand members, let's compare for a moment. Say each faction has 1000 members. If we count all the named organizations within the Dragons, they outnumber the Patched 9:1. That's not counting the first 5 Heads, who would have their own factions as well.

As for the "making them stronger", most of that is in regards to how the DS has behaved when you use them. Along with the aforementioned guy getting beheaded, the guard in the elevator knows Hector has a weapon but lets him go anyway. That sounds like pretty bad bodyguarding to me. And the whole thing with Smiler? I get that there's "no point" in him sitting around jail, but you never explain why the hell police officers would leave him with a single escort by the end and why they would set him up for interviews by 3rd parties in the first place. As far as we know, Vale isn't Gotham, not yet. Thinking logically there's no way he should have escaped. But I let it slide because the plot has to keep moving.

The friction you're describing was already there before this RP, correct? The Patched should have fled, they were crazy outnumbered and outclassed. As for the death of Diaboli: I'm pretty sure he dies for the sake of your overarching plot involving your OCs, not for me. Zanipher, hell, all Nine Dragons die in my AU, but you don't see me using that as leverage against you. And for the whole blowing up thing. I saw that more as you wanting to dictate the terms of their defeat, rather than letting the Dragons storm the base. Personally I'd rather they not blow the joint and submit peacefully, but that's up to you.

I put a lot of effort into buffing up the Dragons with other people's factions. The way I see it, the Patched lost because they were weaker, not because I was BSing the Dragons' power. I'd assumed you were aware of this disparity when you asked me to RP. I was actually hoping Zanipher and Decadere could work out some sort of agreement, but when the latter pulled the phone trick I decided the only logical choice was to go to war. They're bad guys, after all.

I try to be very logical as well, believe me. These were the conclusions I drew based on my reasoning. Everyone here is sensitive about other people handling their intellectual property, and I'm no different. It was my fault for not bringing the issue up sooner, as I too wanted a good story.

Believe me when I say I want to disarm and disperse the Dragons as well. But it's going to come off as extremely awkward and extremely rude to the other wikia members I convinced to go along with it, unless some event comes up in canon which gives me an impetus for the removal of such a powerful network.

As for your new post: Sorta? Frankly, I really don't want anything to happen to the DS. Sorry.