Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24296957-20141203043014/@comment-23929867-20141204025123

Oh dear. Drama. This ... is never a good thing, but I shall attempt to put in my two cents.

I have never had a problem with Sel. In fact, I've always found her to be very nice when I'm in chat, which is less often now than I would like. But ... the evidence presented, on its own, does pose some worry. So, I will attempt to speak solely of the evidence, without bringing my personal experiences into the matter.

I'll speak as if this evidence is self-contained, without any further context aside from what the evidence provides. In the evidence provided, she essentially called Leaf a cunt, seemingly unprovoked. And when pleaded to take the argument to PM, she ignored it. However, Leaf also made no attempt to take it to PM, so that was on him as much as on Sel.

Now, Sel did ban Leaf when the latter insulted her. But, let's keep this in mind: Sel initiated this trade of insults by calling Leaf a cunt. And by the rules she herself attempted to enforce, she should have left the chat rather than escalate the issue to a full-on "verbal" war.

Finally, in the final bit of evidence, Sel outright said if the rules got in the way of her attacking another admin, then "too fucking bad". This is a clear indication that she, in that moment, did not care about the rules, which is a big no-no for any person in authority.

Sel, earlier in this thread, said something that's rather telling. "Nobody has 365 good days a year. You can't really hold a handful of venting instances against a person. It blows over. Things get better. Imagine if the world held it against you if you just had a single bad day? Would that make you future days any better? Probably not. But I digress." I completely understand this. I have been in the exact same position. And I learned a lesson: if you are in such a bad state that you're willing to outright attack someone, then you should stop, leave the chat, cool down, and come back to it later with a clear head. This is something that I very much think that Sel needs to learn. And this is a very important factor, and will factor into my final recommendation (for what little weight it holds).

My recommendation is a provisional demotion from her position as bureaucrat, keeping her reviewing privilages. If, after a given period of time, she proves that she can handle her temper in those times she gets upset, then she can return. Otherwise, as much as I like her, I cannot condone her current position as bureaucrat.

Please note that this is solely based on the evidence provided. If provided with additional evidence, I will be more than happy to revise my opinion.